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This alkaline water and gout topic is now closed. As you will see from the discussion, it is pointless to focus just on water, as it is your entire diet that affects uric acid, not just one single item. Please see alkalizing gout diet menu pages for more information, then start a new topic here if you still have questions.
In web , there are lots of pages which are saying drinking high ph water will dissolve uric acid from the body, alcalife, hemen ee etc….did anybody try or heard it about it ?
theory behind the fact is that our body get the acidoz after the eating meat&alcholol over 20-30 years. I can belive this. After i red that i looked my urine ph level. i did not look before. I have gout for 5 years and i have made test over 20 ..3-4 attacks in 5 years totally.. I saw that ph level was 5 which has to be in between 7-5 according to legal health rule. It shows that my body is acidic now..it can be caused by the gout or gout is caused by this..egg-chicken paradox…
Anyhow i red also scientis researchment in ph 8 uric acid dissolve 20 times more than in ph 6..in the kidney…
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Any comment or information or test??
I?never thought about it. But now you brought it up i'm interested in what other members think about this. Thanks.
?i made test today..my ua level is 6,6 under 7 ..it is normal now. ?4th of july it was 10,2 at that time i didnot used Allp because of suspicous side effect to liver. from july to now i got 100 mg Allp. each day and drinking ph 9 water during last 3 weeks.
I am trying to give up Allp because i think that it give me side effect to my liver. my liver Alt is around 90 which has to be 40 max. it happened in one year. it was 40 one year ago. i am thinking Allp cause this.
As I wrote last week, considering the effects on gout of a single food item (or drink) is futile. You have to analyze your entire diet.
Alkaline water is a pointless expense that is oversold by companies making lots of money. There is no magic cure, but if you cannot tolerate allopurinol there are alternatives, none of which are easy.
First, you MUST discuss your concerns with your doctor. Elevated ALT is fairly common on gout medicines, but it has many causes. You really need to speak to an expert on this, as I believe the figure of 40 maximum is incorrect. It is good to be concerned, but it is bad to be over-anxious if there are no real problems. Allopurinol hypersensitivity must be avoided, but do not confuse the itching with natural reactions to dissolving uric acid crystals. An allopurinol hypersensitivity rash looks something like:
On your first post here, you mentioned febuxostat (Uloric). Check with your doctor or pharmacist if this is available now in Turkey (probably as Adenuric). If so, see if there are any schemes to help with costs similar to the patient assistance program in USA. Note that febuxostat is also associated with elevated liver enzymes.
You should also ask your doctor about probenecid, which works differently by helping your kidneys excrete uric acid.
If you want to make things difficult for yourself, you might be able to control your uric acid by diet, but you have to be prepared for a restrictive regime of controlling all aspects of your diet, including food drink and exercise. Of particular concern, in order of importance are: calories; iron; animal purines; acid-alkaline balance.
I have been visiting Doctor for 5 years. I changed also. I visited also expert prof..I did what they suggest.I am taking care also eating. I have been avoid to eat rich purin food. as i conclusion i have to take medicine rest of my life for blocking uric acid avoiding gout attack not taking medicine in a certain time such as 1or 2 month and cure completely…?t is a trick of modern-antihumanist-mostly capitalist pharmacy business.we have to take it for all life become loyal costumer.Medcine just cure sympthom of the ill not cure tottally ill
all gout medicine , Allpunirol, uloric, probenecid are works ?same principle. all of them has several side effects. some side effects are so bad as photo. some side effect will be realized in a long term basis.
How can i think to use uloric although they decleared liver toxinity to my liver Alt 94?. again;i have to say…it was allright 3 years ago 40..after i used ALP it become over 100..okey lets take it unserious and thank to God not have side effect rash as the photo..if i contuniue use of Alp and what will be 3 years later? if it become 500 to go siroz..what will be?? none of the doctor give the warranty against of it..they are all saying to take Alp and ?be monitored and check regulary..till when?? i am 40 yrs old..it can be worst in 45..
I understand why you worry about the gout medicines for lowering uric acid, but you have the choice of serious diet control.
There is a lot of rubbish talked about diet, often by people with a vested interest in selling you something. I have no interest other than to help your gout, and there are many things you can do to improve gout diet. As I said, purines are only the third most important thing.
Post a complete list of everything you eat and drink each day in the gout diet forum here, and I will do my best to analyze your diet properly and advize you how to improve it. Please do not leave anything out. If it goes in your stomach, you have to list it, including food weights, and liquid volumes, and all medications and supplements.
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Firstly, serum uric acid ?6.7 in NOT proper control of gout?you want below 6.0 or better, below 5.0.
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Do not be afraid of slightly elevated liver enzymes (2 x normall upper limit.) Both allourinol and febuxostat temper the activity of xanthine oxidase which makes uric acid and XA is present ONLY in the liver in healthy persons. So perhaps the increased liver activity shows up in some people. I doubt there is much evidence in the literature of liver damage caused by allopurinol after the half century it has been the drug of choice for gout and millions of people are taking it every day of their lives.
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If your numbers keep climbing then consider switching to a uricosuric like probenecid which operates solely in the kidneys.
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If you are on allopurinol there is no need to worry about creating an alkaline urine because you are excreting LESS uric acid. It is those on uricosurics who excrete large amounts of uric acid for whom an alkaline urine will help prevent precipitation of urate kidney stones.
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Don't count on much dietary aid for gout. When that was all there was, it was tried and failed?but then at least doctors could bill for something. (Doctors abhor a vacuum, even more than nature.)
zip2play said:
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?If you are on allopurinol there is no need to worry about creating an alkaline urine because you are excreting LESS uric acid. It is those on uricosurics who excrete large amounts of uric acid for whom an alkaline urine will help prevent precipitation of urate kidney stones.
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Good point!
I must remember that, and make some of my ramblings clearer.
zip2play said:
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If you are on allopurinol there is no need to worry about creating an alkaline urine because you are excreting LESS uric acid. It is those on uricosurics who excrete large amounts of uric acid for whom an alkaline urine will help prevent precipitation of urate kidney stones.
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Therefore,i am reducing to take All. i was taking 100 mg eachday and reached 6.7 level. I am taking 100 mg in two days not daily. I am drinking high ph level water and taking care what i eat so i will check my UA level after 2-3 weeks later..I am trying to give up All. step by step..
This alkaline water and gout topic is now closed. As you will see from the discussion, it is pointless to focus just on water, as it is your entire diet that affects uric acid, not just one single item. Please see alkalizing gout diet menu pages for more information, then start a new topic here if you still have questions.
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